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		<title>Comment on Destruct testing, tool making, and jewellery by Somhairle</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2012/01/23/destruct-testing-tool-making-and-jewellery/#comment-7303</link>
		<dc:creator>Somhairle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! I&#039;d be absolutely delighted with the T-shirt idea - it&#039;s something I&#039;ve been thinking about, but not got around to sorting out yet. I&#039;d be happy either to get one done and send it, or let you have a suitable image file to take to local T-shirt printers, whichever will work best for you.

I can sympathise with your problem with the ribbons, and I suspect that inch-wide ribbon would be a bit much for someone with your frame in any case. It&#039;d be nice to find a way to make it work... hm. Maybe a gorget-type necklace, something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.etsy.com/listing/23564613/neo-gothic-gorget-necklace&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! I&#8217;d be absolutely delighted with the T-shirt idea &#8211; it&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve been thinking about, but not got around to sorting out yet. I&#8217;d be happy either to get one done and send it, or let you have a suitable image file to take to local T-shirt printers, whichever will work best for you.</p>
<p>I can sympathise with your problem with the ribbons, and I suspect that inch-wide ribbon would be a bit much for someone with your frame in any case. It&#8217;d be nice to find a way to make it work&#8230; hm. Maybe a gorget-type necklace, something like <a href="http://www.etsy.com/listing/23564613/neo-gothic-gorget-necklace" rel="nofollow">this</a>?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Destruct testing, tool making, and jewellery by Elettaria</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2012/01/23/destruct-testing-tool-making-and-jewellery/#comment-7297</link>
		<dc:creator>Elettaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All gorgeous, as ever. Could we discuss perhaps using one of your tree prints on a T-shirt for D&#039;s upcoming birthday? I have just realised that it&#039;s three weeks away and I have little idea of what to get him, as it&#039;s all been so hectic lately. He was looking thoughtfully at some t-shirts with tree prints on them on Etsy a while ago, and I remember thinking that yours are so much nicer. 

As for the ribbons, I am downright lusting after them, but unfortunately I feel strangled with anything tied around my throat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All gorgeous, as ever. Could we discuss perhaps using one of your tree prints on a T-shirt for D&#8217;s upcoming birthday? I have just realised that it&#8217;s three weeks away and I have little idea of what to get him, as it&#8217;s all been so hectic lately. He was looking thoughtfully at some t-shirts with tree prints on them on Etsy a while ago, and I remember thinking that yours are so much nicer. </p>
<p>As for the ribbons, I am downright lusting after them, but unfortunately I feel strangled with anything tied around my throat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A (short &amp; incomplete) pragmatics of feminism by Eve</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2012/01/13/a-short-incomplete-pragmatics-of-feminism/#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIKE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIKE.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some notes towards a new money by Somhairle</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2011/11/15/some-notes-towards-a-new-money/#comment-5948</link>
		<dc:creator>Somhairle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that! 

I do see the issues with the jubilee cycle, but that only arises when people know it&#039;s coming. Under this plan, it could happen at any point, without warning - since nobody would find themselves at zero balance or even very low afterwards, there shouldn&#039;t be any risk to doing that.

The futures-trading issue is an interesting one, and one I&#039;ll have to think about the implications of - thank you for bringing it up!

Regarding incentives to upvote - hmm. I&#039;d hope that the threat of bringing on a jubilee by inflating the system unnecessarily would restrict the number of large funding suggestions, but of course I might be wrong. I hadn&#039;t been thinking of it in terms of spending the community&#039;s money, but I probably should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that! </p>
<p>I do see the issues with the jubilee cycle, but that only arises when people know it&#8217;s coming. Under this plan, it could happen at any point, without warning &#8211; since nobody would find themselves at zero balance or even very low afterwards, there shouldn&#8217;t be any risk to doing that.</p>
<p>The futures-trading issue is an interesting one, and one I&#8217;ll have to think about the implications of &#8211; thank you for bringing it up!</p>
<p>Regarding incentives to upvote &#8211; hmm. I&#8217;d hope that the threat of bringing on a jubilee by inflating the system unnecessarily would restrict the number of large funding suggestions, but of course I might be wrong. I hadn&#8217;t been thinking of it in terms of spending the community&#8217;s money, but I probably should.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some notes towards a new money by James Harlow</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2011/11/15/some-notes-towards-a-new-money/#comment-5947</link>
		<dc:creator>James Harlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, perceived problem comment I&#039;m afraid. :)

The jubilee event has a number of problems. It guarantees the existing behaviour of recessions and expansions--in the period just before a jubilee, everyone is frantically trying to spend money, so you have an economic expansion. As soon as the jubilee hits, people will stop spending money, and you&#039;ll get a recession. (This isn&#039;t *really* worse than the existing system, but it&#039;s a lot more volatile, which is a problem if you want your system to e.g. pay direct debits.)

Because of this, people are incentivized to hedge--they will want a guarantee that their money will be worth *something* tomorrow, even if it&#039;s worth less today. They start creating futures--a very simple future is &quot;I&#039;ll give you E1000 tomorrow, unless we jubilee, in which case I&#039;ll give you 0.1% of my money&quot;. I think you&#039;ll find it impossible to stop this. Unfortunately, you don&#039;t even need to be incentivized to do this--future-trading agents will always end up wealthier (on average) than non-future-trading agents. Over time, the agents who develop more sophisticated algorithms for determining the expected value of money in the next (say) day, which either eliminates the jubilee (if almost everyone plays the hedge game) or systematically biases wealth to agents who&#039;re willing to engage in financial games (which is I think the behaviour you&#039;re trying to eliminate in our current system).

There are a number of hacks that you can do to the system to make it harder to make futures, but the hacks make the money worse (in the Gresham&#039;s Law sense of the word), and better (ditto) money will replace it.

The second is the problem of the community funding. I am a lot less optimistic than you that this will work well--I think California&#039;s budget-by-ballot experience tells us that a community doesn&#039;t necessarily think well at spending the community&#039;s money. Even if you disagree, the simplest way to get a funding proposal to pass would be to add a clause saying that the benefactor of the proposal would give every upvoter a share of the funds. The entire community is then incentivized to upvote the proposal, and in fact anyone who doesn&#039;t upvote every proposal with that clause loses out relative to the ones who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, perceived problem comment I&#8217;m afraid. <img src='http://www.eithin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The jubilee event has a number of problems. It guarantees the existing behaviour of recessions and expansions&#8211;in the period just before a jubilee, everyone is frantically trying to spend money, so you have an economic expansion. As soon as the jubilee hits, people will stop spending money, and you&#8217;ll get a recession. (This isn&#8217;t *really* worse than the existing system, but it&#8217;s a lot more volatile, which is a problem if you want your system to e.g. pay direct debits.)</p>
<p>Because of this, people are incentivized to hedge&#8211;they will want a guarantee that their money will be worth *something* tomorrow, even if it&#8217;s worth less today. They start creating futures&#8211;a very simple future is &#8220;I&#8217;ll give you E1000 tomorrow, unless we jubilee, in which case I&#8217;ll give you 0.1% of my money&#8221;. I think you&#8217;ll find it impossible to stop this. Unfortunately, you don&#8217;t even need to be incentivized to do this&#8211;future-trading agents will always end up wealthier (on average) than non-future-trading agents. Over time, the agents who develop more sophisticated algorithms for determining the expected value of money in the next (say) day, which either eliminates the jubilee (if almost everyone plays the hedge game) or systematically biases wealth to agents who&#8217;re willing to engage in financial games (which is I think the behaviour you&#8217;re trying to eliminate in our current system).</p>
<p>There are a number of hacks that you can do to the system to make it harder to make futures, but the hacks make the money worse (in the Gresham&#8217;s Law sense of the word), and better (ditto) money will replace it.</p>
<p>The second is the problem of the community funding. I am a lot less optimistic than you that this will work well&#8211;I think California&#8217;s budget-by-ballot experience tells us that a community doesn&#8217;t necessarily think well at spending the community&#8217;s money. Even if you disagree, the simplest way to get a funding proposal to pass would be to add a clause saying that the benefactor of the proposal would give every upvoter a share of the funds. The entire community is then incentivized to upvote the proposal, and in fact anyone who doesn&#8217;t upvote every proposal with that clause loses out relative to the ones who do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Truth and Beauty &#8211; The Future We Deserve, Part 3 by Madeline McKeever</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2011/11/18/truth-and-beauty-the-future-we-deserve-part-3/#comment-4437</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeline McKeever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We build what we want to, so the trick will be to want something else.&quot; This is why democracy is failing, we elect politicians who promise things we want. What we want is selfish and not good for the planet or other people, personal greed is the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We build what we want to, so the trick will be to want something else.&#8221; This is why democracy is failing, we elect politicians who promise things we want. What we want is selfish and not good for the planet or other people, personal greed is the problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Truth and Beauty &#8211; The Future We Deserve, Part 1 by The Bucky-Gandhi Design Institution &#8250; A quick life update&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2011/11/02/truth-and-beauty-the-future-we-deserve-part-1/#comment-3854</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bucky-Gandhi Design Institution &#8250; A quick life update&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s a write-up with notes from Ethin [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Truth and Beauty &#8211; The Future We Deserve, Part 1 by SkorpionUK</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2011/11/02/truth-and-beauty-the-future-we-deserve-part-1/#comment-3852</link>
		<dc:creator>SkorpionUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE slums: it&#039;s also important to add infrastructure to the things slums don&#039;t have, but it&#039;s this infrastructure that&#039;s critical to healthy survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE slums: it&#8217;s also important to add infrastructure to the things slums don&#8217;t have, but it&#8217;s this infrastructure that&#8217;s critical to healthy survival.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Curves &amp; grids by Yewtree</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2010/06/21/curves-grids/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Yewtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it - I think it&#039;s the tension between the formality of the box and the freeness of the curves. Also it looks as if it might be made of cast iron, as the black, particularly in the first image, looks slightly raised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it &#8211; I think it&#8217;s the tension between the formality of the box and the freeness of the curves. Also it looks as if it might be made of cast iron, as the black, particularly in the first image, looks slightly raised.</p>
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		<title>Comment on From the Hither Shore by Yewtree</title>
		<link>http://www.eithin.com/2010/03/14/from-the-hither-shore/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator>Yewtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I like it. Definitely evokes the sea.</description>
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